DAYO ALEBIOSU: NON – DOMESTICATION OF TREATIES HURTING OUR ECONOMY

DAYO ALEBIOSU: NON – DOMESTICATION OF TREATIES HURTING OUR ECONOMY

Chairman, House of Representatives Committee on Treaties and Agreements, Hon.Yacoob Bush-Alebiosu, in this interview with Festus Akanbi says failure to domesticate some of the treaties, which Nigeria is signatory to, is robbing the country of vital gains from such international cooperation. Excerpts:
Why has it been difficult for Nigeria to implement some of the treaties and agreements signed with other members of the international community?

The committee I chair is a new committee of the house and it is a pioneer committee. We are dealing with a lot of issues and the house deems it necessary to put the committee in place because of the lackadaisical attitude with which the country has been dealing with some of the treaties it signed. Sometimes, I wondered if those that signed the treaties on Nigeria’s behalf really have a good understanding of the documents they signed. For example, they are talking about the small arms treaty, it still hasn’t been domesticated. Nigeria is a signatory to over 400 treaties and we have a record of less than 250 and I doubt if up to 30 has been domesticated
. The reason why the family members of the victims of the Dana crash were able to get any form of compensation was because that treaty was domesticated, which means it becomes legal here in Nigeria. If it hasn’t been so, it means all the family members would have to go abroad to file a suit or it would mean the airlines won’t be offending any law of the land if it had refused to pay. So, it makes you wonder what is the rational for signing these treaties. Another example is the BASA treaty. I believe it was looked at in good faith, but the question is, are we benefiting from the treaty? This is not peculiar to Nigeria but the failure to take the right step is what is peculiar to Nigeria. South Africa refused to renew some treaties because it asked the question, how has these treaties benefitted us? In spite of the ECOWAS treaty, Ghana has been able to put some measures in place in order to ‘municipalise’ the treaty. For instance if you are going to Ghana from Nigeria, you have to be prepared to invest not less than $300,000. I have heard people say this is unfair? I disagree. They are only trying to protect Ghanaians and they have accepted that you are free to come and invest without restriction in adherence to ECOWAS treaty.
If you fly to United Kingdom now and you land in Heathrow, if you are going to Manchester, you have to patronise their local airlines by taking a local flight, which means you are helping them to build their local aviation industry but here you see international airlines flying directly to Enugu and Portharcourt. What it means is that it has taken away from local market and this is why if you look round you begin to wonder how come the lifespan of these local airlines are not more than two or three years before they fold up or bought over. How do you expect these airlines to break even? They are bound to cut corners and in doing so safety standards are compromised and that is when you will see air crash happening.

What is the state of the Tobacco Control Bill, which you sponsored?
It has scaled through the first and second reading and it is presently at the committee stage for hearing but there has been a backlog of bills referred to the committee. I believed the public hearing for the Tobacco Control Bill should be announced very soon.

How confident are you that the bill will get the concurrence of the Senate?
The bill is Tobacco Control bill and it is not to witch-hunt the tobacco companies but it’s looking at achieving a few things. One of these is how to get tobacco out of the hands of the young ones. Members of the Senate are parents and everybody is a parent in the house of reps so I think from that angle, nobody should have any problem with the bill or its concurrence in the Senate.

What happens to the treaty regulating the sale of tobacco products?
You are referring to the framework on Convention on Tobacco Control, which is a guideline on how to control tobacco in the way it is sold in municipalities as they say the world is a global village and Nigeria is a signatory to that convention. The first robust bill on the subject matter was sponsored by Senator Mamowora and it passed through both houses but unfortunately, the executive refused to assent to it.

However, there were a few things which were absent in the last bill which we are now planning to reintroduce. For instance, we are looking at licensing. Who are those that have something to lose, we want to see who is more careful. Today, you can decide you want to sell tobacco and you can just do it but we are saying now you have to be licensed. If we say we want to control how it is sold to young children, if we say we do not want young ones to touch tobacco products, how do you achieve that in the position it is now?
How do you guarantee that roadside marketers or those who sell cigarettes in traffic conform? In Lagos today, you can buy cigarettes on the road, so how are you sure they will not sell to under-ages? That is why we are introducing licensing into it so that if you want to sell or trade in tobacco, you have to be licensed and you know when you flout the laws, there will be a strong penalty recommendation.
As we all know, nicotine is the most addictive substance in the world today much more addictive than alcohol and heroine which we all fear. Should it be sold loosely on the street? The FCTU just give a guideline to help you regulate the sale of cigarette in your localities and we have borrowed a few recommendations from there. It is a treaty but the question is how do we localise it? For example, what happens in Lagos does not happen in Kano so we have come up with a framework on how the convention on tobacco can be effectively adapted in Nigeria.

Can we say that the decline in revenue is behind the reluctance of the executive to sign the bill in its earlier format, considering the huge tax paid by tobacco firms in Nigeria?
What we have come up with has nothing to do with an attempt to chase out tobacco firms from the country. Like I said, we are seeking to achieve certain things and the duty of any government is to protect lives and properties. Adult are old enough to make rational decisions and say I’m ready to take the risk but what about that youngster who sees it as a thing for the adults? How do you protect that youngster? And don’t forget that we are dealing with so many diseases. A recent report said eight million Nigerian die of cancer annually. It did not specify the kind of cancer that killed these people. It’s a matter of control and we have not said tobacco should be banned in Nigeria. There is control in other countries, so what makes our own different? They are also dealing with economic issues. It is a global problem and so it is not peculiar to Nigeria. So if they were able to fight and tackle the issue there, we should be able to do so here.

Can you throw light on your effort to compel airlines to be accountable for any delay or inconvenience caused their passengers?
We are working on a new bill, it has been approved and it has been sent in for gazette. I believe the first reading will come up anytime from now. It’s called the Customer Compensation Bill or Consumer Compensation Bill, whichever way you want to look at it. There is this unaccepted attitude of operators in the aviation industry where passengers are treated shabbily.
Nobody will book flight to the next destination for no reason. When you travel through aeroplane it means you have a specific target. When you buy flight tickets, it means an agreement has been reached. When you sell your ticket to me, it means your plane will leave at a particular time but when flights are delayed, what you get is we are sorry. How fair is that? For some airlines, you can’t get your money back and the highest you can get is a refund after two weeks or months and we are saying this is not acceptable. Passengers put their luggage in the care of airlines and during flight the luggage are damaged and all you get is sorry, we are saying they should be held responsible and that is what this bill seeks to achieve, taking responsibility for your actions.

How far have you gone with the bill on the sale of energy drinks in the country?
That one is also at the committee level, it is receiving attention. It is the Caffeinated Energy Motion. It is a motion on caffeinated energy drinks. We discovered that there are over 300 energy drinks being sold in the country of which more than half are unregistered by NAFDAC. I have suffered from the proliferation of such energy drinks in Nigeria where I was close to losing my life but I was fortunate to have family members and friends coming to my support by paying my medical bills. I was extremely lucky to have gotten away with this. I therefore feel it would be ungodly of me to keep this experience to myself. I feel I needed to do something as a representative of the people by saying we need to monitor the sale of these products very closely and you will discover that those falling victims are those who do not like alcohol per se. People are misinformed thinking energy drink is a think of class. When I came up with this motion, some people thought I was crazy.

But what is the role of NAFDAC in this?
Unfortunately, these things are still finding their way into Nigeria. If they are being sold in the market and they are not registered with NAFDAC, how are they finding their ways into the market? This is one of the reasons we say there is need for investigation. If they are found to be dangerous then the government has to do something.

LAW ON REMOVAL OF NIGERIAN CBN GOVERNOR

LAW ON REMOVAL OF NIGERIAN CBN GOVERNOR


On Thursday, 20th February, 2014, the Nigerian government
announced the suspension of the Central Bank Governor, Lamido Sanusi. Not only
did it come as a shock to many but it also resulted into a large debate and social
commentary on the whether the President has the power to suspend the CBN
Governor. The relevant provision of the law that deals with this matter is the
Central Bank (Establishment) Act, 2007 which was signed into law by then
President Olusegun Obasanjo.
Section 11 of the CBN Act provides for the disqualification and cessation
of office of the Governor, it provides that;

(1) A person shall not remain a Governor, Deputy Governor or Director
of the Bank if he is-
(a) a member of any Federal or State legislative house; or
(b) a Director, officer or employee of any bank licensed under the
Banks and Other Financial Institutions Act.
(2) The Governor, Deputy Governor or Director shall cease to hold
office in the Bank if he-
(a) becomes of unsound mind or, owing to ill-health, is incapable of
carrying out his duties;
(b) is convicted of any criminal offence by a court of competent
jurisdiction except for traffic offences or contempt proceedings arising in
connection with the execution or intended execution of any power or duty
conferred under this Act or the Banks and Other Financial Institutions Act;
(c) is guilty of a serious misconduct in relation to his duties under
this Act ;
(d) is disqualified or suspended from practising his profession in
Nigeria by order of a competent authority made in respect of him personally;
(e) becomes bankrupt;
(f) is removed by the President:
Provided that the removal of the
Governor shall be supported by two-thirds majority of the Senate praying that
he be so removed (emphasis supplied).
Apparently, the provision of the
law on this topic is clear, however, it is expected that if the suspension is
challenged in court, the honourable court will further shed more light on the
validity of the order and if the president does in fact have the powers to
suspend Sanusi Lamido. 
The section further provides
that;
(3) The Governor or any Deputy Governor may resign his Office by giving
at least three months’ notice in writing to the President of his intention to
do so and any Director may similarly resign by giving at least one months’
notice in writing to the President of his intention to do so.
(4) If the Governor, any Deputy Governor or Director of the Bank dies,
resigns or otherwise vacates his Office before the expiry of the term for which
he has been appointed, there shall be appointed a fit and proper person to take
his place on the Board for the unexpired period of the term of appointment in
the first instance if the vacancy is that of-
(a) the Governor or a Deputy Governor, the appointment shall be made in
the manner prescribed by section 8 (1) and (2) of the Act.
Section 8 provides that;
(1) The Governor and Deputy-Governors shall be persons of recognised
financial experience and shall be appointed by the President subject to
confirmation by the Senate on such terms and conditions as may be set out in
their respective letters of appointment.
(2) The Governor and Deputy Governors shall be appointed in the first
instance for a term of … years and shall each be eligible for re-appointment
for another term not exceeding five years:
Provided that, of the first four Deputy Governors to be so appointed,
one shall in the first instance be appointed for three years and two shall in
the first instance be appointed for four years.
(3) The salaries, fees, wages or other remuneration or allowances
including pension and other allowances payable to the Governor and to the
Deputy Governors shall be as stipulated from time to time by the Board subject
to the approval of the President.
(4) The Governor shall appear before the National Assembly at
semi-annual hearings as specified in paragraph (b) regarding-
(a) efforts, activities, objectives and plans of the Board with
monetary policy; and
(b) economic development and prospects for the future described in the
report required in subsection (5) (a)
of this section.
(5) The Governor shall, from time to time-
(a) keep the President, informed of the affairs of the Bank including a
report on its budget; and
(b) make a formal report and presentation on the activities of the Bank
and the performance of the economy to the relevant Committees of the National
Assembly.
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CRIMINAL CODE ON ABUSE OF PUBLIC OFFICE

CRIMINAL CODE ON ABUSE OF PUBLIC OFFICE


According to the Criminal Code Act, CAP C38, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria 2004, a “public official” means any person employed in the public
service or any judicial officer who may be a member of a customary court; juvenile
court; an arbitrator, umpire or referee; a person called upon to serve as an
assessor in any civil or criminal proceedings; a jury; a member of a tribunal
of inquiry constituted under the Tribunals of Inquiry Act; and any person
before whom, under any law in force in Nigeria or any part thereof, there may
be held proceedings in which evidence may be taken on oath.
The Criminal Code in Section 98 defines official corruption by public
officers to mean acts where a
public official invites bribes, etc., on account

of own actions either by
– corruptly asking for, receiving or obtaining any property or benefit
of any kind for himself or any other person; it could also be that he corruptly
agrees or attempts to receive or obtain any property or benefit of any kind for
himself or any other person, on account of anything already done or omitted, or
any favour or disfavour already shown to any person, by himself in the
discharge of his official duties. Such public official is guilty of the felony
of official corruption and is liable to imprisonment for seven years.

It is also an offence for person
on behalf of a public official to agree to commit the above stated acts and it’s
no defence in court that the act was never carried out or never intended to be
carried out. If particularly, a police officer or other public official whose
duties involve – the act to arrest, detention or prosecution of any person for
an alleged offence; or the investigation of an alleged offence, when prosecuting
the official in court, it makes no difference if the officer actually believed
that the offence he was arresting or failing to arrest someone over had been
committed. 
Under Section 98A, any person who
‐ corruptly gives, confers or procures any property or benefit of any kind to,
on or for a public official or to  any
other person; or corruptly promises to do so is also guilty of the felony of
official corruption and is liable to imprisonment for seven years. The provision
of this law also applies to instances when such person is seeking to procure a
government license or contract from the public official. However, no
proceedings shall be brought against a judicial officer except on a complaint
or information signed by or on behalf of the Attorney ‐ General of the
Federation or by or on behalf of the Attorney‐General of the State in which the
offence is alleged to have been committed.
Section 99 also prohibits Extortion by public officers and any
person who, being employed in the public service, takes, or accepts from any
person, for the performance of his duty as such officer, any reward beyond his
proper pay and emoluments, or any promise of such reward, is guilty of a felony
and is liable to imprisonment for three years. When public officers also give
government contracts to companies that they have direct or indirect stake in
except where such company is a joint stock company with more than 20 members, he
shall be guilty of a felony and is liable to imprisonment for three years and
to be fined at the discretion of the court. The offender cannot be arrested
without warrant. 
Public officers according to
Section 103 who make false claims in other seek compensation are guilty of a
felony and liable to imprisonment for three years.  By virtue of Section 104 any person who, being
employed in the public service, does or directs to be done in abuse of the authority
of his office, any arbitrary act prejudicial to the rights of another, is
guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for two years. If the
act is done or directed to be done for purposes of gain he is guilty of a
felony, and is liable to imprisonment for three years. The offender cannot be
arrested without warrant. 
Impersonating a public official
is a felony and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Where a person falsely
personates a member of the armed forces of Nigeria, such person is guilty of a
misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for one year. Any person who also fraudulently
sells such clothing belonging to members of the armed forces shall also be guilty
of the offence.
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TENANCY LAW IN LAGOS STATE

TENANCY LAW IN LAGOS STATE


In Lagos State, the law that
applies to tenancy matters is the Tenancy Law of Lagos State 2011 though it
doesn’t apply to every part of Lagos, areas such as Apapa; Ikeja G.R.A; Ikoyi;
and Victoria Island are exempted from the law. Also, residential premises
operated by educational institutes for their staff and students; residential
premises provided for emergency shelters and residential premises providing
rehabilitative or therapeutic treatment are exempted from the Law as well.

The introduction of the Law by Governor
Fashola won the heart of Lagosians because it prohibited property owners from
collecting more than a year’s rent from tenants, it also prohibits the tenant
from offering and if either party are found culpable of such act they shall be
liable to 3 months imprisonment or a fine of N100,000. 00. Section
3 of the Tenancy Law provides that a tenancy agreement exist where premises are
granted by the landlord to a person for value whether or not it is – Express or
implied; Oral or written or partly oral or partly written; or For a fixed
period.
Under the Tenancy Law, tenants
are entitled to quiet and peaceful enjoyment of the premises, this includes;
privacy, freedom from unreasonable disturbance, exclusive possession of the
premises and the use of common areas for reasonable and lawful purposes. But,
tenants also have certain duties and obligations under the tenancy agreement,
which include: 
·        –
Duty to pay rent at the times and in the manner
stated.
·        –
Duty to pay all existing and future rates and
charges not payable by the landlord by law.
·        –
To keep the premises in good and tenantable
condition.
·        –
Permit the landlord’s agents to effect repairs.
·        –
Not to make alterations on the building without
express consent from the landlord.
·        –
Not to assign or sublet the property without the
consent of the landlord, and
·        –
Inform  the landlord when repairs are to be
made.
The Law allows landlords to
collect service charges but states that a separate receipt must be issued for
such payments. Tenants are however entitled to a written account of how
such funds are used. In any case where the landlord or his agent in
addition to rent requires the tenant or licensee to pay;
(a) A security deposit to cover
damage and repairs to the premises;
(b) For services and facilities
for the premises; or
(c) Service charges in flats or
units that retain common parts on the premises, 
The landlord or his agent shall
issue a separate receipt to the tenant for payments received and such tenant
shall be entitled to a written account at least every six (6) months from the
Landlord of how monies paid were disbursed.  
Where the tenant fails to adhere
to the conditions of rent, the tenancy agreement may be terminated by the
Landlord taking possession of the property. The Law also places some responsibilities
and obligations by stating that subject to any provision to the contrary in a
tenancy agreement, the landlord shall;
·        
Not disturb the tenant’s quiet and peaceable
enjoyment of the premises.
·        
Pay all rates and charges as stipulated by law.
·        
 Keep the
premises insured against loss or damage.
·        
 Not
terminate or restrict the use of a common facility or service for the use of
the premises.
·        
Not seize any item or property of the tenant or
interfere with the tenant’s access to his personal property.
·        
 Effect
repairs and maintain the external and common parts of the premises.

As for the
payment of professional services such as legal fees, it shall be the duty of
the party who engages the services of a professional in respect of the tenancy
agreement to pay the fees. Where there is a breach or non-observance of any of
the conditions or covenants in respect of the premises, the landlord shall
subject to – Any provision to the contrary in the agreement between the
parties; and The service of process in accordance with the relevant provisions
of the Law, have the right to institute proceedings for an order to re-enter
and determine the tenancy.

Where there is no stipulation as to the notice
to be given by either party to determine the tenancy, the following shall
apply-

(a) a week’s
notice for a tenant at will;
(b) one (1) months’
notice for a monthly tenant;
(c) three (3)
months’ notice for a quarterly tenant;
(d) three (3)
months’ notice for a half-yearly tenant; and
(e) six months’
notice for a yearly tenant.

In the case
of a monthly tenancy, where the tenant is in arrears of rent for six (6)
months, the tenancy shall lapse and the Court shall make an order for
possession and arrears of rent upon proof of the arrears by the landlord. In
the case of a quarterly or half-yearly tenancy, where the tenant is in arrears
of one (1) year rent, the tenancy shall lapse and the Court shall make an order
for possession and arrears of rent upon proof of the arrears by the landlord.

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LEGISLATIVE MOTION ON BILATERAL AIR SERVICE AGREEMENT (BASA) BETWEEN NIGERIA AND UK

MOTION TO INVESTIGATE BILATERAL AIR SERVICE
AGREEMENT (BASA) BETWEEN NIGERIA AND THE UNITED KINGDOM AND ITS
NON-DOMESTICATION BY NIGERIAN AUTHORITIES

The House:
Notes: Bilateral Air Service Agreement (BASA) is an
agreement signed between two nations to allow international commercial air
transport services between their territories. BASA, founded on the principle of reciprocity, is
a deal that enables a country’s airlines to enjoy equal leverage, in terms of
flight operations, in countries with which their home country has an air
agreement.
Worried: During the signing of the agreement few years ago, both governments
(Nigeria and United Kingdom) agreed to assist airlines owned by

both countries
that wish to fly into each other’s airspace. Under the bilateral agreement
between United Kingdom and Nigeria, each of the two countries would have 21
frequencies for its airlines. What this means is that British airlines would
operate into Nigeria 21 times, while Nigerian airlines would also operate into
Britain 21 times.

Concerned: The underlying tenet and principle behind agreement of this magnitude
is equality of flights between and among airlines of signatory countries
without compromising safety and security standards. However, this principle of
equal partnership and stakes is being flagrantly abused by the United Kingdom.
While British Airways and Virgin Atlantic are fully exploiting the Nigerian
slots as contained in the BASA, same could not be said of their Nigerian
counterparts.

CONSTITUTION OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
Resolves to;
1.     
Request
the House Committee on Aviation as well as the Committee Treaties and
Agreements investigate the BASA and how beneficial are these Bilateral Air Service
Agreements to Nigerian Airlines. 

2.     
Request
that the Ministry of Aviation, immediately forward all Bilateral Air Service
Agreements (BASA) which Nigeria entered into for domestication to the House of
Representatives in order for these treaties to have force of Law as provided in
Section 12 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999.

           MOTION
Honourable colleagues,
I seek to present a motion to investigate thenon-domestication of the
Bilateral Air Service Agreement (BASA) between Nigeria and the United Kingdom
as its non –domestication and presentation to the National Assembly makes the
treaty not to have the force of Law in Pursuant to Section 12 of the
Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999.

One of the fundamental
principles of International trade and business is economic co-operation with
agreements of different forms and shades as the basis for such interdependence.
In Air transport, air service agreements are entered into, which should be
mutually beneficial to the parties, hence the BASA.
Bilateral
Air Service Agreement (BASA) is an agreement signed between two nations to
allow international commercial air transport services between their
territories.
Under the bilateral
agreement between United Kingdom and Nigeria, each of the two countries would
have 21 frequencies for its airlines. What this means is that British airlines
would operate into Nigeria 21 times, while Nigerian airlines would also operate
into Britain 21 times.
Recent happenings in the Aviation sector seems not
to be in favour on Nigerian Airlines as deluge of complaints and displeasure
are been expressed by industry operators on the lopsided nature of this
agreement in favour of UK registered Airlines.
Fellow Lawmakers, further review of this situation
revealed that despite the noise and cries by Nigerians on the alleged lopsided
nature of this Agreement, it was revealed that this agreement was not even
domesticated and lacked the Force of Law. So, it can be convincingly deduced
that these Agreements are really not justiciable or enforceable under the Laws
of Nigeria even if the alleged defaults by the UK authorities are indeed real.

Nigeria is a signatory
to many of these treaties-be it Bilateral and Multi-Lateral agreements and
suffix to say that only a few of them have really been beneficial to the people
of Nigeria whom we always claimed to have been greatly considered before
appending our signatures on these binding documents. Also, before treaties can
have a force of Law in Pursuant to Section 12 of the Constitution of the
Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999 they must be tabled before this Honourable House.
 

Hon. Yacoob E.A. Alebiosu 

Hon. Dayo Alebiosu is a member of the House of Representatives, representing the good people of Kosofe Federal Constituency of Lagos State and Chairman of the House Committee on Treaties and Agreements. 
INTERVIEW: HON. DAYO ALEBIOSU ON THE NATIONAL TOBACCO BILL

INTERVIEW: HON. DAYO ALEBIOSU ON THE NATIONAL TOBACCO BILL

A
new tobacco control bill sponsored by Hon Dayo Alebiosu a member of the
House of Representatives, representing Kosofe Federal Constituency has
scaled through second reading. In this interview with Michael Azorie, he
talks about what motivated him to sponsor the bill and his life as a
former smoker.


The
National Tobacco Control Bill that you sponsored scaled through the
second reading and was committed to the committees on health and
Justice, why two committees?
Well,
you know if the one sponsored by Senator Mamora had gone through with
the Presidential assent this would have been an amendment, so since it’s
not law yet, you can’t amend what is not law. The Bill sought to amend
the 2004 tobacco act with some additions to it, and we want to make sure
that since it enjoyed the support of the entire house because not a
member opposed it, we want to be sure that some of the objectives it
sought to achieve does not offend any laws here in this country. That
was why it needed to be looked at holistically from the health and
justice angle. That is why you have the bill committed to both
committees.
The motivation, what is the motivation for this tobacco bill
To
be honest with you, I will say that although I have had some health
issues and experiences in the past that I was ignorant of a few
things and on finding out it prompted my actions. I used to be a
smoker, but thank God, I didn’t get to a point where they say if I don’t
quit I will die. With the support and help of God I was able to kick
the habit. I used to drink as well; I used to drink energy drinks and
alcohol. I had some experience with energy drinks and I will not want
anybody to experience what I went through. Before that I had found
myself in the middle of health campaign, I listen to news a lot and with
the  illiteracy rate in Nigeria at 70 percent , who will look out for
them. We need to understand that as a developing nation we have ties and
treaties with other nations which is mutually benefiting and as the
chairman of the Treaties and Agreement committee, I have been able to
examine some of these treaties and say to myself that we need to do
something about it. Nigeria is a signatory to the Framework Convention
on Tobacco Control.
Also the fact
that I see most kids who smoke do so because their parents smoke and
they began at an early age. That is one of the things this bill will do,
parents can’t smoke around their children. We are also looking at those
who send their children to purchase cigarettes; it is going to become a
crime. We know the most addictive drug in the world is nicotine, that
is what makes them smoke. When you send kids to purchase nicotine, you
are saying it is okay to smoke; these are the things we seek to put out.
Apart
from that if you go driving out, you can actually buy cigarettes in
traffic. Should this be? Should the most addictive drug in the world be
sold indiscriminately without licensing which is another thing the bill
will do. It will license those who sell cigarettes. There has to be
checks and balances. The law is meant to punish those who go against it.
This is the only way we can protect our
children, as a matter of fact am not just worried about the future of tomorrow
am also worried about today, the present. We all have to die, but I
don’t want to go right now, so how do we protect the passive smoker,
those who never smoke but ended up with a tobacco related disease.  They
have a right to life but they are being killed. Do we classify that as
an act of God or murder? I will continue to repeat the use of the most
addictive drug in the world, nicotine, should we continue to have it
being sold on the streets without licensing. Tell me where in the world
that is practiced.
You
mentioned that Nigeria has an obligation to domesticate the FCTC, can
this bill serve as the domesticating instrument, and does it fulfill the
protocols in the FCTC.
Absolutely.
 It agrees with practically all the provisions of the FCTC. Also when
you append your
signature to a protocol without registering your reservations, it means
you are in agreement with all the protocol. Nigeria is in agreement
with the FCTC. We are also going beyond that to look at the peculiarity
of our country, our culture and society. When they came up with FCTC am
sure they did not consider that cigarettes are being sold on the streets
of Nigeria. There are quite a few things I see around and I ask how did
we get here. I am grateful to my colleagues for their support on this
bill, when the bill was called for hearing, not a member opposed it.
Not even members representing the tobacco growing areas….
Not one nay. And I am very grateful to the members for that as much as I will still need their support throughout this process.
Is there any difference between this bill and the
one sponsored by Senator Mamora
There
are quite a few. For instance we are introducing licensing, we are
restricting smoking in certain places, you can’t sell tobacco on the
highways, it also addresses smokeless tobacco, there is workplace
protection for speaking up against smoking.
Senator
Mamora’s bill was passed by the National Assembly but not signed into
law by the President, now that this process is on again what will you do
differently to ensure a better result this time.
Amazingly
we didn’t hear from the Executive to say this is what they were opposed
to in the bill but I hear that the Executive was working on a bill, or
so I hear, you know you hear rumours here and there. But the legislature
is such that a lot depends on the support of the members, eventually it
comes down to the ayes and the
nayes. Interestingly, we have all the ayes on our side, am hoping that
the bill will continue to get the support. There are also constitutional
provisions that allow you follow certain steps. Unfortunately, the
sponsor of the bill didn’t return to continue to push for the Executive
assent to the bill. I guess God has a reason for that because this bill
is several riders to the earlier one.
 The
constitution has provisions for what to do if the President does not
sign a bill that is he has to transmit in writing to the National
Assembly reasons he did not sign. Also, the National Assembly can choose
to veto the President on any bill. If need be, will you go for this
option
Well, I do not want
to be preemptive, because in the eventuality of that happening, it
won’t be my decision, it will be the House. You will have to lobby your
colleagues to see
reasons with you. But it is usually always the last resort, I believe
the Executive might have their reasons for what happened, now we have a
stronger bill, I wouldn’t even want to consider that at all, I believe
the Executive and the Legislature are pulling in the same directions for
the good of public health.
Won’t some people see this bill as the opposition bill since Senator Mamora is also a member of your party?
Take
a look at the tobacco statistic, an annual 6.4 million people being
affected. I am sure if they die they will not all be A C N members,
there will be PDP members too. We want to protect the under 18 children,
they are not all opposition children.  Am a father, I used to smoke; I
wouldn’t want my children to experience it likewise all the other
members of that House. Every member supported the bill, it cuts across
party
lines.
There is a
compelling argument from the tobacco industry about paying taxes and
providing jobs. Doesn’t this bill look like you are discouraging Foreign
Direct Investment
Yes I
appreciate the fact that the tobacco industry is providing less than
1,000 jobs. We thank them very much. But we have indigenous companies
like Dangote that have employed more than that. Besides, this bill is
regulatory not prohibitory. There is no other place in the world even in
the homes of the parent tobacco companies that don’t have regulations,
and they don’t have cigarettes sold in kiosks but under licensing. There
are other foreign investors in Nigeria; we need to understand that if
Nigeria isn’t seen as a huge market they wouldn’t be here. In as much
that they have a dangerous product and they want the business of
Nigerians they must be regulated. Without that
we can be sure that they can use tobacco to control our population.
Have you been contacted by the tobacco industry
No I haven’t
 When they do how will you deal with it
 
This is not the first bill I will be sponsoring, you asked me what
motivated me into doing this and I gave reasons, so I wonder what will
now kill that motivation. Amazingly, Senator Mamora is also my
constituent. It wasn’t planned it just happened, so if he could make it
through I will as well.
 
  There is a tobacco bill in the Senate……
 Correct
 Which is seeking to do exactly what your bill wants to do? Will you harmonize with the Senate or step down your bill
There
are provisions in the National Assembly, we can sit down and look at
all the bills, the strength and weaknesses, we take the strong points
and the ultimate goal is to have a strong legislation for Nigeria. I am
sure the Senate would also see the strength of this bill.